Group key doesn't work as advertised

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Group key doesn't work as advertised

Post by gooze » Thu Aug 23, 2012 12:55 pm

In the manual it is stated that the [GROUP] key is used to select channels, and the [LOOK] key to select and apply channels. The [GROUP] key cannot be used though to set the channels recorded in a look to a level higher then the recorded value using [@][@].
If a channel has a recorded value of 80%, you would expect that the [GROUP] key bring the channel to full with [@][@] and the [LOOK] key brings it to 80% using [@][@].

I never came across this problem before because I always use the touchscreen to select, so I cannot tell you for how long the bug is there.

As always: using the latest beta of the software 10.8.4003
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Re: Group key doesn't work as advertised

Post by BobbyHarrell » Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:06 am

If I read you right, you can use the "double dipping" feature that I often teach. Say 1 thru 5 are at 75% and stored in Group 1.

GROUP 1 FULL = 1 thru 5 @ 75.
GROUP 1 ENTER FULL = 1 thru 5 @ 100.

This allows you to use the Group for both features (Selecting a collection of channels and applying their stored level). (Selecting a collection of channels and applying an absolute level).
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Re: Group key doesn't work as advertised

Post by gooze » Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:28 am

This doesn't make sense and is not what is mentioned in the manual either. At this moment the [LOOK] and [GROUP] key do the same. Why the extra keystroke?
You can make the [GROUP] and [LOOK] key listen to the same lookpage, so your method would make sense with the [LOOK] key only.
From the manual:
[GROUP] [1] [FULL] Sets all intensity attributes of the channels in Group 1 to 100%
and
If you want traditional "Group at Level" functionality use [GROUP] [#] [ENTER] to retrieve both the selection set and the recorded attributes
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