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Re: Playback Slider Causes Unwanted Dead Blackouts!

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:24 pm
by GaryDouglas
Digging a bit deeper, I found the problem on the 48/96 ONLY. Jim -- yours is a classic right?

Re: Playback Slider Causes Unwanted Dead Blackouts!

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:30 pm
by jmac
GaryDouglas wrote:Digging a bit deeper, I found the problem on the 48/96 ONLY. Jim -- yours is a classic right?
Yes- Classic II.

Re: Playback Slider Causes Unwanted Dead Blackouts!

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:00 pm
by GaryDouglas
Looking even deeper yet I've managed to reproduce it on a PVL16.

Here are the steps to reproduce:

1) Shut down the software
2) Set the AB faders both to the top (100%) position
3) Start the software
4) Move only fader B

The Playback master will drop to 0 if fader B is the first of the AB faders to move. This is only on the first hit of any of the faders.

The workaround is to wiggle the A (Master ) fader first, and start with the Xfader at the 0 position - before hitting the crossfader at all.

There is definitely a problem with the initialization value for those faders. I'll add it to the bug tracker. :added: FS1668

Re: Playback Slider Causes Unwanted Dead Blackouts!

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:55 pm
by golights
Thanks Gary

Re: Playback Slider Causes Unwanted Dead Blackouts!

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:53 am
by jmac
GaryDouglas wrote:Looking even deeper yet I've managed to reproduce it on a PVL16.

Here are the steps to reproduce:

1) Shut down the software
2) Set the AB faders both to the top (100%) position
3) Start the software
4) Move only fader B

The Playback master will drop to 0 if fader B is the first of the AB faders to move. This is only on the first hit of any of the faders.

The workaround is to wiggle the A (Master ) fader first, and start with the Xfader at the 0 position - before hitting the crossfader at all.

There is definitely a problem with the initialization value for those faders. I'll add it to the bug tracker. :added: FS1668
Thanks, Gary for digging even deeper. I am glad you are able to produce the problem. I'm not alone!

To respond to your 4 steps above, regarding step 2, I get the problem regardless of where either slider is when starting the software- top, bottom or in between. I've tried about every combination.

Your work around works here too.

What's weird, is if I do your work around except have Xfader starting at top instead of bottom, as soon as I start to move the Xfader to start my initial 3 second cue, the cue time jumps to zero right away, and channels jump to full cue values. As XF continues travel, the cue time starts counting back up (!), and the channels start fading down. At end of travel, channels are all down to zero, and cue time ends up at 2 (not 3) seconds... Can you do that too..??

So, I take it this is a software glitch, as Bobby has suspected all along (?). I think he might have even mentioned something about initialization issues last spring... The guy is pretty sharp.. :)

Please advise when you are able to fix this bug. Thanks much.

Re: Playback Slider Causes Unwanted Dead Blackouts!

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:59 am
by BobbyHarrell
As my daddy used to say..."That boy is as sharp as a bowlin' ball".

Re: Playback Slider Causes Unwanted Dead Blackouts!

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:00 pm
by jmac
BobbyHarrell wrote:As my daddy used to say..."That boy is as sharp as a bowlin' ball".
I like that.

Or as a former co-worker used to say of me-- "He may not be smart, but he sure is slow"....

Re: Playback Slider Causes Unwanted Dead Blackouts!

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:18 pm
by RobertBell
Another one I like:
"We're not happy until you're not happy."

Re: Playback Slider Causes Unwanted Dead Blackouts!

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:19 pm
by jmac
Oh, I'm still happy. Birthday today!

Re: Playback Slider Causes Unwanted Dead Blackouts!

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:57 pm
by gooze
There is another related issue on a PVL16 with 10.6.2001.
I've set-up the A/B faders to release channels in time.
I usually have the B fader just a quarter of an inch off zero and leave it that way. No if I start my console in this state it doesn't work until I move the fader a couple of times.
So there still is an initialisation issue with the a/b faders.