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Sub level strangeness

Post by amoyer » Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:06 pm

Running 10.4.11 and am having a weird problem with the fixture levels in some subs showing a level of zero even though the sub is at full and the fixture level is a full too.

It is almost as if there is something mastering it. The grandmasters are at full. The look shows a value of 100% but the fixture just shows a level of 0%.

If I make the look in question exclusive it then has complete control (as expected) over the fixtures within it. Deleting the look in question and then re-creating it released the channel and the look functions fine again.

Just strange.
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Re: Sub level strangeness

Post by golights » Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:13 pm

Andrew, do you have any Looks controlled by dmx inputs. The other day I had the same experience and it seemed like something with the dmx input controls I was playing with were holding the channels off. The channel levels were boxed as they are when the master fader is at 0. I thought I had set something up wrong and after removing the inputs things seemed to be back to normal. I chalked it up to operator error.

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Re: Sub level strangeness

Post by amoyer » Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:21 pm

Yes, I am using DMX inputs (well, shownet inputs actually).
There is no box around the levels like they are being controled by an inhibitive sub or a master of any kind.
I actually tried clearing the inputs but that didn't help, which is why I then tried deleting the looks in question and re-creating them which fixed the problem.
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Re: Sub level strangeness

Post by golights » Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:46 pm

Right, i was using Pathport for my inputs. Did you try it with 10.4.12?

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Re: Sub level strangeness

Post by amoyer » Fri Nov 21, 2008 6:10 pm

Nope, haven't had a chance to drop the newest version onto the console yet. Hopefully next week I'll have the time (testing time too, of course) to do it. I don't really like to do it while I've got a show that is relying on it, even as it is.
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Re: Sub level strangeness

Post by RobertBell » Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:04 am

There can be a lot of factors here (LTP vs HTP, Snap off zero, priorities, A/B Hardware Setup, GM setup, virtuals, default values). Best to see your show file. Do you see this from File Load? If not - tell me what to look at when you post it.
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Re: Sub level strangeness

Post by Bastiaan » Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:54 am

Strangely enough I have got the opposite. I made an inhibitive submaster for my moving lights, I have made it LTP. So now that submaster is the master of the intensities of my moving lights.

I am in a cue with my ML's at 100%, I fade my ML submaster to 90%. Now I see the channels of the moving lights going to 90% (live channel display).

In the ML display, the intensities of my ML's are still at 100%.

I think it is logical that they must show 90% as well. Or am I missing something here?

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Re: Sub level strangeness

Post by RobertBell » Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:47 pm

:added: FS#1169 - attribute grid intensity column not changed by inhibatives
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