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Trackerball

Post by Bastiaan » Wed Oct 01, 2008 5:27 am

Hello all,

I tried to use my Strand 300 trackerball (Microsoft Trackball Explorer) at my basic Palette.

When I use it for the pan or tilt it does work, but when I reach the top, side or bottom of the screen (the mouse arrow is still active?!) it stops to pan or tilt. I have to move the arrow back to the middle of the screen and have to press the pan or tilt button again to pan or tilt. So I am bounded to the limitations of my screen for pan and tilt.

Can this be solved? It would be convenient to stop the mouse function (and the arrow) if I press the pan or tilt button, in that way that I can pan or tilt as far as my moving light can?

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Re: Trackerball

Post by BrianEvans » Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:08 am

If I am understanding you correctly, the problem you encounter has nothing to do with Palette software.
Windows has a fixed window that the mouse reports position in.
IE: the screen.

The Palete VL trackball is not really a mouse device, it shows up as hardware encoders outside of windows control.

So most likely there won't be a fix for this particualr problem.
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Re: Trackerball

Post by JohnGrimshaw » Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:10 am

On the VL16/64, there is a trackball that does what is needed, and you can optionally turn it into a mouse controller. Is there a way for the software to do the same thing with a "connected" mouse?
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Re: Trackerball

Post by Bastiaan » Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:08 am

Hello Brian,

Thanks for the answer. You did understand my problem right :-).

So because of the DOS OS at the Strand 300 the trackerball did not have this (Windows) problem. Now I moved up to a more advanced OS, I can't use the trackball anymore for pan and tilt, that is really a pitty!

So why is the trackball for the VL not a real mouse device and isn't it possible to let a trackball do the same as the trackball at the VL? If a VL17/64 can do it .... as I can read from John.

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Re: Trackerball

Post by BrianEvans » Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:52 am

The trackball on the Palette VL is NOT a windows device.
It actually shows up in the software as 2 encoders.

Gary wrote special code to make it work like a mouse, not the other way around.

Hope that makes sense.
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Re: Trackerball

Post by Bastiaan » Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:50 am

Dear Brian,

It makes sense for a little bit. I understand that it is a windows problem, but the mouse on the VL not being a windows device and the special code from Gary.... that's what I do not understand.

I just would love my trackerball to work for pan and tilt at my Palette. I am a bit sad to understand that I cannot use the trackerball at my Palettes.

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Re: Trackerball

Post by BrianEvans » Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:50 pm

Hopefully Gary will have some input for you.
He is our resident hardware guru.
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Re: Trackerball

Post by JohnGrimshaw » Tue Oct 07, 2008 4:59 pm

BrianEvans wrote:The Palete VL trackball is not really a mouse device, it shows up as hardware encoders outside of windows control.
That explains why using it as a mouse is a little clunky. I personally prefer to grab a mouse and do mouse things, and grab the track ball and do track ball things.

While the "windows" limit can be annoying, on the palette you can reposition the mouse by releasing S2 and S3. Not perfect I agree, but at least the function exists and it is quite usable.

(there is a function in windows that "auto positions" the cursor over a default button in a new window - maybe the answer lies in there? A special window pops up with a default button in the centre of the screen when Pan and Tilt are pressed at the same time. The window simply says: "Pan/Tilt on the mouse" and there is an OK button in the centre. The window refreshes periodically, pulling the cursor back to the centre?)
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Re: Trackerball

Post by Bastiaan » Fri Oct 10, 2008 6:02 am

JohnGrimshaw wrote: (there is a function in windows that "auto positions" the cursor over a default button in a new window - maybe the answer lies in there? A special window pops up with a default button in the centre of the screen when Pan and Tilt are pressed at the same time. The window simply says: "Pan/Tilt on the mouse" and there is an OK button in the centre. The window refreshes periodically, pulling the cursor back to the centre?)
Something like that would make the use of a trackerball a whole lot better!

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