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Release

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:45 am
by Harrison
Hey Guys

Another idea, not sure if this has been mentioned yet

I was playing around with the desk today with wysiwyg and thought that release could be made better. Would it be possible to use release more in syntax so we could achieve the following:

1 [Thru] 4 [Release][Colour] - To release the colour att only on those fixtures.

Could this be possible on all attributes? pan, tilt, gobo etc. having this functionality would help

Re: Release

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:06 pm
by RobertBell
Bit tricky as we have [UNDO] [COLOUR] to take you back to the last colour change (remember - your REL keycap should now be UNDO).

FYI - if you change colour (such that colour attributes are the last you've changed), [UNDO] [UNDO] will release that attribute family from the selected fixtures.

Also, [#] [ENTER] [COLOUR] [ENTER] will restore tracked colour values for said fixture.

Unrelated, but good to know, [#] [SHIFT] [@] is release in time :geek:

Re: Release

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:22 pm
by Harrison
RobertBell wrote:Bit tricky as we have [UNDO] [COLOUR] to take you back to the last colour change (remember - your REL keycap should now be UNDO).
We did try this, but it didn't work. Maybe we were doing something wrong. I will try again and see what happens! Thanks a lot

Re: Release

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:48 pm
by Harrison
Tried it today, and it didn't seem to work properly with any of the attributes we tried.

With colour, it would not release it fully but take off a few percent from each of the cmy values. It would do similer when I tried with position. Am I doing something wrong? Sorry to be such a pain!

Re: Release

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:05 pm
by RobertBell
I bet this is what happened

You selected a fixture
change to colour attribute family
tweaked (using wheel) Cyan
then tryied UNDO COLOUR
and it just put back one or two percent of Cyan

If you typed in [S2-Cyan] [@] [10] [Enter] then [S2-Cyan] [@] [60] [Enter] then [Undo] [Colour] [Undo] [Colour] [Undo] [Colour] [Undo] [Colour] Cyan would flip between 10 and 60. Wheel movements are only 1 or two percent (depending on how fast you move the wheel)

You can also undo palette applictions with UNDO

Re: Release

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:08 pm
by Harrison
What I did was I built some cues, went to a cue and then changed the colour from 100% cyan to 100% Magenta. I then tried to [undo] [colour] . it would then put magenta down a few percent. Also the same with position. Maybe [undo] cant do this yet?

Re: Release

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:12 pm
by RobertBell
How did you change Magenta? Palette application? Wheel? Command Line?
Wheel won't work with UNDO

Re: Release

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:17 pm
by Harrison
Colour picker. Thats where i'm going wrong! So if I put hard values in, then undo would work? but only one step

Re: Release

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:22 pm
by Harrison
But saying that, If I was building from a cue and I changed any attribute any way, then couldn't undo just put that attribute back to the way it was in the cue your building from?

Re: Release

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:24 pm
by RobertBell
Ah - never thought about colour picker

I see what's going on - when we apply a value using the colour picker, we set (in order), Red, then Green, then Blue, which comes out (sort of) like Cyan, then Magenta, then Yellow (although there is a 2:1 inverted relationship). You're seeing only one of the sets undo.

Will have to think about this.