Profiles in patch

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Profiles in patch

Post by gooze » Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:18 pm

You should be able to choose if you want to add a profile to a fixture or to an output.

If you unpatch a light, you should automatically get rid of any assigned profiles (on the output side, not on the fixture side) This doesn’t happen right now, but it definately should!
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Re: Profiles in patch

Post by GaryDouglas » Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:40 pm

10.0.2 has output profile support, and support for a profile on any attribute.

I get your point about deleting the profile on the output when it's unpatched.

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Re: Profiles in patch

Post by gooze » Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:08 am

Output profiles are already supported. It's the profiles for channels/fixtures that could be a great addition.
You'd have a show on tour were you'd always have your HMI's power on a non-dim. Dimmer changes, channel stays. This way you can patch as you would do with any other channel, but the profile stays with the fixture.
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Re: Profiles in patch

Post by RobHalliday » Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:17 pm

Of course, I'll be difficult and say that I want to apply profiles to outputs and have them stay even when nothing's patched to that output:

- in a theatre, where I know all of the dimmers are of a particular type that I need to profile, but don't yet know which will be patched to channels
- on a tour using local dimming where I apply a profile to all outputs on DMX 1(say) then edit that profile in each venue to make their dimmers work as I need.

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Re: Profiles in patch

Post by gooze » Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:25 pm

I got a strange surprise when I unpatched some lights and repatched a moving light were those lights used to live in the patch. The ML got profiles on all of their attributes...
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Re: Profiles in patch

Post by AlanMartello » Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:27 pm

So if I understand correctly...
gooze wrote:If you unpatch a light, you should automatically get rid of any assigned profiles (on the output side, not on the fixture side) This doesn’t happen right now, but it definately should!
...and then...
RobHalliday wrote:Of course, I'll be difficult and say that I want to apply profiles to outputs and have them stay even when nothing's patched to that output
So my sample size of two indicates a vote in each column. Anyone else care to comment?
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Re: Profiles in patch

Post by BrianEvans » Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:48 pm

I agree with Rob.....and Floorian.

You should be able to apply a profile to an output,
even if it is not patched to a Fixture.
"Hot Patch" is the most commonly used.

Floorian is also correct, when you unpatch a fixture, the profile should go away.

Applying a profile to an output and having it stay there should be a deliberate action,
done in "Patch By Output".

AND, if a profile is assigned to an output that is unpatched,
once that output is actually patched to a fixture for the first time,
that profile should be deleted in my mind.
Because most likely, this output is now being used for a different purpose.

So making a long story short, profiles should go away when a deliberate fixture type change, or un-patch is made.
I think users would be more upset to have un-expected profiles,
then if they had to re-assign a few.
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