Definable Home Positions

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Re: Definable Home Positions

Post by RobertBell » Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:00 pm

In short no.
Best is to create a Look with a priority of 100 (lowest priority) that holds it there. Leave it up. When you capture things or record any other look or cue, it will steal from it. If you release everything, except you don't pull down that look handle, they will fall back to that position.
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Re: Definable Home Positions

Post by MickCrozier » Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:40 am

Havn't tried this - but you should be able to use a scroller profile - setting the first frame as input = 0 and output = 53
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Re: Definable Home Positions

Post by IvanMunro » Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:39 pm

I've been thinking about this a lot as I've com across offset issues before:
Scroller colour profile Offset
viewtopic.php?f=28&t=2353

and I'm coming across more and more instances where some sort of user definable attribute offset would be useful
the latest was this:
we have a show now where we used a wrong sized gell string which we cut don to the right height, now we programmed into groups
off course this means any info in the channel screen bubbles is wrong, the offset could solve this
this again (like with any single frame offset) means we can not use things like text match how it was designed because we have to program from groups

I think that an extra profile (let's call it control profile) which could be entered from the patch windows would be useful,
this extra profile could be used to offset, limit, and control values of all sorts of attributes
This would be an extra profile on top of the attribute profile so you would have the following layers:
(or windows with writing on as Bill Richards likes to call them)
fixture profile (type of fixture)
attribute profile (dimmercurves, colour profiles,...)
control profile (offset, limits, ....)
cues profiles (dimmer/colour timing, ....)

I'm convinced this is one way of sorting out quite some of the irritating fidgety dooda's we all come across
for instance:
-colour offset for scrollers per frame
-resetting a home position
-setting a limit on a movement
-setting a jump over (jump over the DMx value between ...&... in a certain time)

I'm not sure if this is the best way op resolving these issues, but so far it's the only one I came up with
some people seem to think the use of the control profile would cause to confusing and risky settings
but the my opinion is create “clear offset channel / all offset” buttons would be good
and you always still have the option of not using it, at least with the control profile you have the option of resolving some issues fast.

I've kind of been hassling the people at Controllux (Benelux Strand sales) and Phillips/Strand
But maybe I can get some more feedback here to haste the some more ……
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Re: Definable Home Positions

Post by gooze » Sat May 01, 2010 2:44 am

IvanMunro wrote:I've kind of been hassling the people at Controllux (Benelux Strand sales) and Phillips/Strand
But maybe I can get some more feedback here to haste the some more ……
This is the place to hassle the software guys. ;)

The profiles you are talking about is basically a conversion layer between input and output.

Your control profile (or maybe it should be called a temporary correction profile?) is then something to be applied on a per fixture base? Or maybe even on a per cue base. It could be that a light needs to be limited during an act where it is blocked by a piece of scenery, while it can move freely in the next act.
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Re: Definable Home Positions

Post by jfarrow » Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:07 am

Durisian wrote:Havn't tried this - but you should be able to use a scroller profile - setting the first frame as input = 0 and output = 53
Thanks Dursian, I'll try this.

On other consoles (GMA - HOG) I'd just create a new fixture profile with the appropriate default value and patch these fixtures with the updated profile. That said, fixture profiles file on the Strand console seems to be pre compiled, so I've not been able to make my own edits.

If a function is implemented, I'd like to see it as a patch option, not a cue property. I'm on a university campus, and I need to be able to rely on a default configuration that is not accidental modified by the many inexperienced (but keen) users that end up running the console.

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Re: Definable Home Positions

Post by jfarrow » Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:12 am

Any further action on this issue? I've got 2 months without students and I'd like to resolve this scroller issue before they return. Frame 1 is L728 (pale green) not very nice as a FOH wash. (the last frame is R34 for those of you that might suggest threading the scroll backwards, pink isn't a great FOH colour either). I really need my start frame to be the OW that sits in frame 8 (@ 53%)

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