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LP VL: Busking LED Rig

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 11:42 am
by mnicolai
I'm new to working on the Light Palette VL. There's a full rig of Selador in the air on stage, twenty Vivid-R's for down washes, eight D60's for front light, and two D60's on each end of each electric for pipe ends. There are a small handful of conventionals in the air while we get used to the Selador rig, but I want to see what we can do without turning any conventionals on for our next show.

Mainly I want to know the smartest way to fade between colors from different lighting positions on the fly. What is the best way to set an LP VL up for that?

This is a rig I'll be working with regularly, so any advice related to working with LED's and automated devices on a VL is also welcome.

Re: LP VL: Busking LED Rig

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 2:05 pm
by golights
I would Read the Tips and Tricks that Bobby has posted, #6 is focused on led's. You can find them here ... s&submenu=

Re: LP VL: Busking LED Rig

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 2:59 pm
by mnicolai
I've already read that, and while it was helpful, it doesn't talk about how to busk an LED rig live. What I want to be able to do during a show is:

1. Select a portion of the rig.
2. Tell that part of the rig to be a certain color.
3. Fade that part of the rig into that color.

Here's what I don't want to have to do:
-Pre-record lots of looks for all of the combinations of colors/fixtures I might want to use for each event.

I'll settle for a way to set up looks that I can fade between on the submasters, but ideally I want to avoid as much preprogramming as possible. If a method of making this happen on an LP VL doesn't already exist, I hope it comes along soon because it (or something very similar to it) will be a very necessary part of our workflow with our roadhouse rig made almost entirely out of LED's.

LP VL: Busking LED Rig

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:07 pm
by gooze
What do you think about setting a time for any live change with the A/B faders?
TaineGilliam wrote:Take a look at setting your cross faders to "Captured In Time and Release Time". This may give you the affect you are looking for. This is found under Hardware Setup - [F8]A/B C/D.

Re: LP VL: Busking LED Rig

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 11:36 pm
by mnicolai
From the manual:
If you are running a show live, it is handy to have handles to control how long attributes get to
their new level and how long they should take to return to their old levels once released. This
option sets up the left hand fader to control the IN TIME of any attribute you set using the
command line or button array. The scale is from zero to ten seconds (top to bottom). The right
hand fader controls how long releases should take or what is the sneak time.
My understanding of this is that if I manually select a handful of fixtures with the Captured In Time configured, then tell the fixtures to be a certain color, they will fade into that color as soon as I assign it. Is that roughly about right?

Re: LP VL: Busking LED Rig

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:24 am
by gooze
Yes. If you select (e.g. with the 5x5 buttons) attributes will fade instead of snap. Fade in time changes by riding the A-crossfader up and down, the release time ([UNDO][UNDO]) is set by the B-crossfader.

Re: LP VL: Busking LED Rig

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 2:43 am
by MickCrozier
Here's the 2 ways I do it.

1: Simple
A/B faders set to capture/release time
Select groups of LED's with the group palette
Select the color with the color palette
Set the A fader to a (guessed) time
hit ON

2: Complex
Record my groups of LED's to sub pages
Set a macro to the look bump button

Code: Select all

HC.Select("channels in look") -- eg HC.Select("1+2+3+4")
Set bump type to action momentary

Hit bump to select
Choose color on the palette
Fade up submaster