Question Concerning Moving Light Profiles

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Question Concerning Moving Light Profiles

Post by soundguy99 » Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:11 pm

Hey guys,
I have a some what silly basic question, Accesisng certain features within a Moving lights profile, on the Palatte.
We have 4 Mac 250 Entours, 16 bit, already adresses within the console. Now, acording to the Mac's DMX Profile, within the strobe channel 80-99 (DMX Value)their is an Open pulse, 100-119 (DMX Value) theirs a Closed Pulse.
Now if you go into the Consoles Strobe Section for the Mac, the list includes (open, closed, Rnd Fast (128-147),Rnd Med (148-167),Rnd, Slow(168-187), as well as the various speeds of HZ.), None of whch options includes DMX Values, of 80-119 which is where the Pulsing options are found.
Even with the 2 HZ option I find the strobing is too fast for some of the effects I need.
This makes me wonder if the pulsing is around 80-119 (DMX values), where do I find the controls for it within the profile on the console if its not listed under the strobe function. Also applying that same priciple to other moving lights is there any manual way to acess the entire range specific functions within a moving light ie 0-255 so, that If I know the dmx value of a paticular function within a certain channel of a light, I can just input that DMX value into that control manually, to get acess to that specfic effect.
Hopefully that makes sense,
AnyThoughts is greatly apreciated,
Thanks,
soundguy_99

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Re: Question Concerning Moving Light Profiles

Post by TaineGilliam » Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:23 pm

In playing with this it seems that Strobe isn't even settable from the command line. You are forced to the pop-up. Not friendly. I wouldn't expect to be able to say "Fast Rnd" from the command line but 5 Hz seems reasonable.

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Re: Question Concerning Moving Light Profiles

Post by soundguy99 » Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:26 pm

Thanks for the reply,
When we tried any of the Hz from 2HZ including 5 all the way up, belive it or not it was still too fast.
Its not the strobe effect I am after just more ofsetting pulse between the fixtures, to ultimatley create a quick 1 cue chase effect.
The frustrating part is when you look at the DMX profile and see the fixutre having it listed within the fixture, but you can`t get access to it through the Palette.
Ironically on a conventional controller, you would just grab the strobe slider and turn it up to the proper DMX value and bingo, you get the effect.
I wish for certain things like this there was a manual way of scolling the DMX values of a paticular channel until you get to the effect you want, much like its done for the Intensity control 0% being 0 and 100% being 255.
Keeping in mind too that for some fixtures such as some lazers dmx value 0 or 0% would actually be fully on and dmx value 255 or 100% would be completly off.
I am not quite sure how the palatte would handel such fixtures, if I am having difficulties with even getting access to the DMX values on the mac.
Again any thoughts are greatly apreciated,
Thanks again.
soundguy

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Re: Question Concerning Moving Light Profiles

Post by BobbyHarrell » Thu Apr 07, 2011 9:19 pm

for testing purposes, you can always address it at the output level [OUTPUT] [15] [@] [.] [115] [ENTER] That should put output 15 at DMX 115. Obviously, you need to select the correct output number and the correct DMX value as a test.

What we do is map it all thru our Universal Attribute Control so that all fixtures can respond the same way. This also makes copying data between fixtures consistent as well as other features.

I'll ask the fixture expert to take a look and see if anything is being missed here.
Bobby Harrell - Product Specialist
Philips Entertainment - Strand Lighting

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Re: Question Concerning Moving Light Profiles

Post by soundguy99 » Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:12 pm

Hey Thanks Bobby,
I would appreciate that,
I know some of these functions may seem trivial but in certain application they can become very useful. I would just like an easy way to get access to them, Its just not even the macs, allot of fixtures put certain functions within the dmx values of a channel from pulsing strobe to lamp resets ect. I don`t mind if the controls for them are in a different location on the console as long as I can easily find them or at least be able to understand the flow from dmx profile to where the functions are in the console.
May be something to look into for a future version of the software.
Thanks again for all the help,
Soundguy

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