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Re: FX question

Post by GaryDouglas » Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:21 am

Mat, if you run 2 different bump chases, one on a look page with only intensity and one on another look page with colors in it, it should work.

I'll verify and let you know.
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Re: FX question

Post by mat » Wed Apr 08, 2009 12:10 pm

If your chases are on two different lookpages , how do you mix it "hardwarely"?
I mean how do you change intensities of both of them at the same time?
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Re: FX question

Post by BillRichards » Wed Apr 08, 2009 12:39 pm

Mat,

Bump Chases should do it.

Here is how I would do it:

1) Create a New Look Page called say My Effect
2) Record the steps as looks in that page

Now in Sub Page 1,

We record the levels of these very same lights at say 10%, but also introduce a Bump Chase effect working on the Look Page "My Effect"

Now whn you raise the submaster in Sub Page 1, two things happen.

1) The lights fade from 0 to 10% proportionally with the fader and
2)The Effect chases found all the Looks set in My Effect.

I think that is what you are after....
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Re: FX question

Post by mat » Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:43 pm

oh my god you are right Bill.
Thank you very much!

But,you cannot dim your chase intensities can you?
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Re: FX question

Post by MickCrozier » Thu Apr 09, 2009 1:07 am

mat wrote:But,you cannot dim your chase intensities can you?
I was thinking about this the other day -
Could you use a lua script to get the value of the sub fader, and apply it to the bump level of each step??
I don't know the functions available (anyone got a function reference doc??).

if the functions exist it might be fairly simple -
pseudo code:

on bump {
set bump level (get look fader value)
}

And attach it to each bumped look in your chase...
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Re: FX question

Post by mat » Fri Apr 10, 2009 7:11 am

Bill It is 90% of what I want, the other 10% is to modify intensity of the chase itself.
A lot of designers ask me for this.
They don't want tracking fx on sub because they can't mix it correctly with cues and subs that have same channels in.
So I have to use 520i...

the goal is near...
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Re: FX question

Post by JohnGrimshaw » Fri Apr 10, 2009 5:37 pm

Take a look at this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=1906

In there I have posted a BETA showfile that does what you want.
mat wrote:But,you cannot dim your chase intensities can you?
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Re: FX question

Post by mat » Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:10 pm

John
I downloaded your showfile but I still do not understand how to dim a bump chase.
values are 100% for each step and even if the fader is 1%.
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Re: FX question

Post by JohnGrimshaw » Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:39 pm

You CAN control the intensities by making the control submaster an INHIBIT master, and put all of the channels of your chase in there. Unfortunately, the inhibit also inhibits the cue list. So, if you make the chase AND the inhibit the same priority (and less then the cue list), and you could can "underlay" the effect below the cuelist. Not exactly what you want, but at least you can selectively "knockout" the cue list to reveal the chase.

If it were possible to "specify" what an inhibit was inhibiting, then it would work.
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Re: FX question

Post by JohnGrimshaw » Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:12 pm

Just spent a little time looking at this and different possible solutions, and the best I could achieve involved macros that auto asserted the primary cue list to maintin levels.

Not pretty.

It seems to me that "Activating" a bump chase via another sub fader should automatically scale the "bump level" for each step of the chase according to the level of the controlling sub. There really should not be any more programming then is currently done. That would allow people to have the subtle control that is needed (and no other desk does).

ALSO, I think that creating a bump "sub chase" should be easier again (so even easier then the way we did it on the 500).

I'll add a post to the Beta suggestions for this. For those with access, it is here:
viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1955
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