Scroller patching options

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tvsquint
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Scroller patching options

Post by tvsquint » Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:54 pm

Hi All,

So I am working in Offline 10.4.2, and am attempting to patch my scrollers. FWIW, I haven't touched a Strand console in about 20 years, so I have little to no frame of reference.

It appears that I have 2 options:

1) I can patch my scrollers as Scrollers, in which case I can specify their make and model, but cannot associate a dimmer with them (or I haven't figured out how to do so).

2) Or, I can patch Scroller Dimmers, in which case it appears that I can specify a scroller profile, but not the specific make and model.

Ideally, I'd like to patch all my conventionals w/scrollers as Scroller Dimmers, but I would like to specify make and model of the scroller itself. My reason for this is that I have 2 different models of scrollers (ForeRunners and Colorams) with the same gel string in them, but because they are different models, the frames respond to different DMX values. I can set up different profiles for the scrolls, but this seems clunky and labor intensive.

Am I missing something, or is this an accurate description of my options?

Thanks in advance,

Beth

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Re: Scroller patching options

Post by BrianEvans » Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:27 pm

A scroller profile for your different make and model scrolls,
all patched as "Scroller Dimmer" is your best bet.
Make and model specific libraries wouldn't solve your problem either,
because all scroller manufacturers leave it to the user to decide what colors and how many go in there.

In Patch by fixture, the DMX address of the dimmer controlling the lamp
goes in the "Dimmer" column, and the DMX address of the color scroller itself
goes under the "Addr 1" column.
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Re: Scroller patching options

Post by tvsquint » Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:36 pm

Thanks, Brian. That's what I figured, but that raises the other question that I think I've seen addressed here before.

When using Scroller DImmer, I believe I can only patch one scroller to any one dimmer, correct?? That puts me right back to patching all of my scrollers independently of their conventionals.

Do I understand this correctly??

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Re: Scroller patching options

Post by BrianEvans » Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:38 pm

You can put as many addresses in both the dimmer and addr 1 column as you want.
But most folks tend to keep 1 dimmer to 1 scroller for flexibility reasons.
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Re: Scroller patching options

Post by tvsquint » Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:49 pm

You can put as many addresses in both the dimmer and addr 1 column as you want
Okay, then...regarding flexibility, can I assume that if more than one scroller is patched to a dimmer, that there is no way (however clunky or convoluted) that I can access one of the scrollers without affecting all of them?

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Re: Scroller patching options

Post by BrianEvans » Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:55 pm

In your case, I think you want to patch multiple scrollers as "fixtures",
but only assign the dimmer to the first of them.
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Re: Scroller patching options

Post by tvsquint » Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:38 pm

Hmm...but then don't I still need to group my scroller fixtures and access them separately from the dimmer channel? Sorry if I'm not following you here...

Here's the big picture: I originally set up this rig so that I would have the option to have independent scroller access within one conventional channel (e.g. a 6k dimmer with several S4's on it), regardless of how many scrollers there were. However, in 3.5 years I have never actually needed that functionality.

Now we're buying a new console, and I very much prefer the simplicity of scroller dimmers, so I don't have to separately access the scrollers. While I have never been asked to use the functionality of several different scrollers on one dimmer, I would like to know if there is any way to have my cake and eat it too, believing that while I don't think I need it, it's best to be able to provide it in the event that my boss decides she wants it for one crazy cue that we'll never use again.

Make sense? So, if the answer is, "you can't do that", that's cool...I just want to know if there's any possible way to have the best of both worlds...

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Re: Scroller patching options

Post by BrianEvans » Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:55 pm

There is a "Generic 2-color" scroller in the library that would allow you to control pairs of scrollers on 1 dimmer.
If you actulaly need a 4-color scroller, there is one of those as well.
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Re: Scroller patching options

Post by tvsquint » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:03 pm

Terrific! If we end up buying a Palette, I'll be bugging you about that...:~)

Thanks for your time and patience!

Cheers,

Beth

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