Problems Update 10.4.2

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Wichtel
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Problems Update 10.4.2

Post by Wichtel » Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:31 am

Hello,
have even Problems with english, sorry :roll:
Console: Light Palette Live

-Update to 10.4.2 -> problems with all playback-fadern
-no linear dim out/full possible ( intensity jump ), crossfade o.k.
-run effect ( other playlist ) in the playback - no problem with dim out/full

Thanks for help!
kind regards from Sachsen, Germany

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Re: Problems Update 10.4.2

Post by Kuni » Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:25 am

Hi there,

on Friday we solve the problem with the "jumping" output of the light.
If you store different Q-List on the faders, start the Qlist and move the fader up and down then the result on stage was funny. The Lights on stage was to 0 if the fader is on 0 if you move the fader (playback) slowly up to 50% then after 2-3 sec. the light on stage will have the same level, but without the move, only in a jump. And so one with different values.
Sometimes (if you move two or three faders in the same time) you must move the GrandMaster up and down to see the Light on stage.

In the past month we change the Fader PCB but the result was the same only a little bit "softer".
Last week we installed the version 10.4.12 on the desk and now every thing works fine with the faders :-)
May be this was a software fault, but I not really shure because the "jumping" with the changed PCB was a little bit "softer"
............kuni................................
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Re: Problems Update 10.4.2

Post by RobertBell » Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:14 pm

Sorry about all that. It was indeed a s/w problem (not h/w). It was random as to how bad it was going to be. That fix is noted in the release notes.
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Re: Problems Update 10.4.2

Post by jeroenhelsloot » Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:20 am

Kuni wrote:If you store different Q-List on the faders,
Does this mean that you store different cuelists onto different faders, and be able to play different Qlists at the same time? Could somebody tell me how I store a cuelist to a fader? Let's say I want cue list 1 to fader 1 and cuelist 3 at fader 2? I've probebly missed that feature during the training and can't find it now...
Thanx Jeroen

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Re: Problems Update 10.4.2

Post by BrianEvans » Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:44 am

This only works on LightPalette, because it has the 12 playback wing off to the lest.

When you right-click in the cue list display (upper left-hand tile) and choose "New",
you are able to add cue lists.

They lay out on the playback wing on the LightPalette in the order they are placed in the list.
Right-clicking on a cue list name and choosing "Playback Page", inserts a page break that allows the up and down arrow to the far left of the playback wing page through banks of cue lists.

As far as Palette is concerned, you have either 1 or 2 playbacks on the desk,
and you can have as many virtuals as you desire.
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Re: Problems Update 10.4.2

Post by jeroenhelsloot » Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:01 am

So my basic palette does not support this function? Can this be updated in the software, so that our desks, all basic, can do this as well? Would save a lot of troubles to run additional cuelists and effectlists..
Jeroen

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Re: Problems Update 10.4.2

Post by amoyer » Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:55 am

jeroenhelsloot wrote:So my basic palette does not support this function? Can this be updated in the software, so that our desks, all basic, can do this as well? Would save a lot of troubles to run additional cuelists and effectlists..
As Brian mentioned above you can have as many virtual lists as you wish on all desks. Cue lists cannot exist on a submaster. Just right-click in the top left section and add a new cue list.
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Re: Problems Update 10.4.2

Post by BrianEvans » Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:27 pm

Look Masters will never support cue list control directly.
This opens up far to many cans of worms.
You CAN however write clever macros that use the level of the look to trigger and release

This would be done by assigning a variable page "patch" to a look page.

If you send email to support@horizoncontrol, we can help you with the macros for that.

I normally use "On Value 0" to release the specified cue List,
"On Value 100" to "GO".

This way if I hold the bump button, the cue list runs,
and if I let go of it, it releases.
If I want to use it to step through cues, i simply move the handle above 0, and press the bump button to advance cues.

In cue list properties, you best bet is set the cue list to reset on release, this way the first cue in the list always happens when you go.
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Re: Problems Update 10.4.2

Post by JohnGrimshaw » Wed Nov 19, 2008 2:45 pm

BrianEvans wrote:I normally use "On Value 0" to release the specified cue List,
"On Value 100" to "GO".
Using this type of thing ALSO means that you can use the fader. If you leave the fader at 50%, you can move it to 100% to send a "go" (and back to 50% ready for the next Go), and "release" the cue list by moving the fader to 0% (and back to 50% ready re-assert the cue if needed).
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