more inhibit questions (10.3.1)

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tom
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more inhibit questions (10.3.1)

Post by tom » Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:18 am

A cue is in, and for example channels one and two are 100% but they are inhibited to 75%. When they are selcted and reduced to 50% and the cue is updated the table see the new value of 50% and upon the update throws another level of proportion in zero seconds. So the new level is 37% which is not the desired effect and also the last 13% is bumped.

Goto cue 1 *
(1 and 2 = 100%)
Inhibit fader @ 75% (presuming the inhibit fader has 1+2 at 100%)
select 1 + 2 @ 50%
Update cue 1 *

1 + 2 are on 37%

This was a functioned that i used nearly dailey on the 520. I can understand why it does it but it does make editing cues alittle unpredictable will using inhibits.
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Re: more inhibit questions (10.3.1)

Post by BrianEvans » Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:03 pm

If you want your subs to have no effect on cue editing,
the best way is to "Load" the cue.
It brings all cue information into the programmer with deltas as if you were still creating it.

When you are done editing, just press "Update".
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Re: more inhibit questions (10.3.1)

Post by tom » Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:29 am

But that way it overrides the inhibit and in the case above channels 1 and 2 would shoot up to 100% in zero seconds. Then on the update the inhibit kicks in again and they shoot back down, making the situation even less subtle.

My situation would be during a show where inhibits are involved, to record a minor correction for the following evening.
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Re: more inhibit questions (10.3.1)

Post by BrianEvans » Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:48 am

if the level in the programmer is the level you want,
why are you not resetting the inhibitive sub back to 100% before you press update?
At that point you would see no change on stage.

Another option you may want is to not have the programmer release when you record a cue.
(Uncheck "Release Fixtures on Record" under
Setup | Show Options | Cue List

At the that point what I normally do is select everything active, and release in a specified time when I know
everything "underneath" the captured channels is identical.
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Re: more inhibit questions (10.3.1)

Post by gooze » Sat Jun 28, 2008 4:49 am

The way a lot of work (Especially in The Netherlands because we do extensive touring) is update cues during a show to save changes for the next performance maybe in another theatre, maybe the next day in the same theatre.

Therefore there are two things really important:

Updating must be really simple and be very predictive (e.g. always the same behaviour concerning update including or excluding subs - not sticky for a session but an option in the settings menu)
Updating can take place at every giving moment during a show without getting unpredictive movements or jumps. (e.g. update during a fade holds the update until the fade has finished and applies to the cue that you were fading to.)
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